#this came to me in a Jeanne D'arc-style vision

[oh-boix]

she eat on my insane root til I commit regicide

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jaune will kill cinder revised

cinder murdered pyrrha jaunes love interest and mentor and he probably blamed himself for her death  especially since he once said to pyrrha

“I’m tired of being the lovable idiot, stuck in the tree while his friends fight for their lives! Don’t you understand? If I can’t do this on my own… then what good am I?” jaune to pyrrha

and he was too busy being that guy to help pyrrha and she died so he probably has a desire to get stronger (which he will  possibly gaining some magic or power to use in the fight) and stop cinder. and cinders very name relates to fire Whenever she uses Dust, it’s always Fire Dust, and a cinder is the light among ashes that can be seen when a fire has died out, when ever she uses magic she mainly uses fire magic. so it would be fitting/ironic when jaune is the person who kills her since joan of arc died by fire after being condemned as a witch since it would be jaune overcoming/crushing the thing that killed his inspiration to represent him overcoming it. so while cinder killed pyrrha in a way that matched her inspiration by shooting her with a arrow first in the heel and then in the heart matching both variations of achilles death. she will not succeed in killing jaune  (In a way that would match his inspiration)  he will over come cinder (fire) where pyrrha couldnt overcome cinder(archer correlating with the way that achilles died) jaune whos inspiration is joan of arc who died via fire will defeat and kill cinder  overcoming the way that joan of arc died etc. (also european dragons are associated with fire and jaune has a knight motif and  jaune also fights in a knightly style with sword, shield and armor.  and falls under the trope http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KnightInShiningArmor

(Forever Fall shows him saving the life of Cardin Winchester when an Ursa was about to kill him. Jaune pretty much showed everybody what it means to be a Huntsman: staying cool under fire, carefully positioning yourself to find the enemy’s weaknesses, and defending those who can’t defend themselves, even if they don’t necessarily deserve it. He also fights in a knightly style with sword, shield and armor. However, he subverts this trope in one respect: while he has the personality to back up the trope, he really doesn’t have the skills. )

 (p

 except while his personality matches it his skills do not yet) and knights slay fire fire breathing  dragons in various storys  joan of arc disguised herself as a man to be a knight and cinder could bee described as salems dragon ( the tv tropes term

it  would also be fitting since pyrrha was jaunes mentor(http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MentorOccupationalHazard ) and taught him how to fight so it will be fitting when jaune kills someone pyrrha was unable to defeat ( even after cinder fought ozpin got a some her aura taken out  )  representing jaune doing what pyrrha couldnt do) and jaune even uses the same basic gear as pyrrha (a shield and a sword) and when pyrrha fought cinder she ddnt use the spear or gun form of her weapon.  it was always in its sword form so she was using a  sword and shield through out her fight with cinder  its foreshadowing to jaune being the one to take down/kill cinder 

jaune would crush the person who represents fire the thing joan of arc was killed by 

I mean the irony of the person with a joan of arc theme killing the fire user

plus 

he would also also take the element that was used to kill her and use it for himself with him  fusing his body with  fire dust a reference to joan of arc being burnt at stake ( though he wont die)  (this might be a bit of stretch) crocea mors means yellow death. yellow is a color associated with fall  so it would be fitting if jaune kills the fall maiden with crocea mors ( which means yellow death)  edit : 

http://huggingmarshmallows.tumblr.com/post/139397365284/so-i-was-talking-to-a-friend-over-skype-and-i-was

https://rwby-fan-theories.tumblr.com/post/154942072470/jaune-was-partly-based-off-cloud-strife-from-final

if pyrrha is aerith jaune is cloud  because of the fact that they both crossdressed for the sake of someone they cared about and given that monty is a die hard fan of final fantasy he might have used jaune to reference that. plus both are swordsman, both had low self esteem, both are blondes  plus cloud suffers  from motion sickness just like jaune had been shown to suffer motion sickness( though clouds motion sickness improved overtime  and when he was in his fake soldier persona(which were created from certain cells mixing his memories of Zack’s personality with the cocky and selfish attitude he believes a SOLDIER 1st Class would have ) it disappeared returning  after his true persona was restored) both cloud and jaune had dreamed to be a hero with cloud wanting to be a hero like sephiroth with (this was when cloud was 10) and jaune wanted to be a hero like his  father and grandfather etc and cloud was tormented by guilt over what he perceives as his past failings to save those he cares about like when tifa got hurt( to the point where her life was in danger)  when they were younger  he blamed himself for not being able to save her. and you cant tell me that jaune wont be tormented about his inability to save pyrrha. heck he was shown to be tormented by his weakness of being  “I’m tired of being the lovable idiot, stuck in the tree while his friends fight for their lives!” and cloud himself had feelings of helplessness,  both of them are swordsman,  Jaune’s character theme (Joan of Arc)  had heard voices in her head and visions from god of   dead saints  speaking to her as a message and was telling her what to do first it was just live piously then it had been to lead the french against the english.and cloud got visions of aerith who communicated with him after death (so it would be fitting for jaune to get visions of pyrrha and it would add to the similarities between jaune and cloud)

( heck I have a theory that jaune is going to have dust (which I believe was made from the auras of the deceased) infused into him which would  correlate with how cloud had    been exposed to Mako  since dust (coming from the auras of the deceased( from dead people) would would be the equivalent to mako and jaunes  eyes will probably glow like how clouds eyes glowed blue due to  the mako in his body 

“adam taurus has dust infused to his body and

One of the very first things the narrator says in the first episode is “Man, born from Dust.” The name Adam from the Book of Genesis is derived from a Hebrew word for earth, or the ground. Or, in other words, dust. which is very good nod to the bible and another nod would be adam taurus having dust infused to his body I mean look at the black trailer and how his hair  and eyes glowed”

http://rwby-fan-theories.tumblr.com/post/133320516959/adam-taurus-has-dust-infused-to-his-body-and-one

https://rwby-fan-theories.tumblr.com/post/152030012845/jaunes-body-be-fused-with-fire-dust-that-came

aerith was killed by sephiroth and the one who killed sephiroth  was cloud.

and cinder(sephiroth) was the one who killed pyrrha(aerith) so she will die by jaune(cloud) hands 

plus jaune being helped to stop cinder by the fire dust that came from pyrrhas soul would be a bit of a parallel/reference to how aerith managed to stops sephiroths plans in the lifestream b plus if dust comes from dead humans and jaune fused with fire dust coming from pyrrha it might lead to him being able to break the rules and gain the powers of the fall maiden  maiden

for rwby I have said this before but I have to point out  that when joan of arc was alive she referred to herself as the maiden and when she was canonized she was dubbed the holy maiden and what she did was crossdress and take a traditionally male role she broke the rules and the role as a maiden in rwbyverse is a traditionally female role  (yellow is associated with fall and jaune) which makes me think about jaune getting the power  along with the fact that joan of arc was condemned as a witch  and witches use magic which maidens use  (though admittedly that might not happen) 

jaune s sword is crocea mors which is named yellow death and fall is associated with  color yellow 

edit: 

http://sailor-tailored.tumblr.com/post/139341354760/pyhrra-is-based-off-achilles-in-the-one-story-of

“ pyrrha is based off Achilles.

In the one story of Achilles, during the Trojan War, Achilles decides to go back into battle after his friend/lover Patroclus is killed (which is how Achilles’is killed btw).

In RWBY, Jaune acts as Pyhrra’s potential love interest. What’s interesting is that, instead of Jaune’s death motivating Pyhrra, as in the original Achilles story, it’s her death that motivates him. Which is a switch-around on Achilles’ story. So, instead of Achilles going into battle, it is now “Patroclus”–Jaune of Arc, the man based off the French-woman Joan of Arc.

RWBY is heavily based off myth, legend and fairytales, but with twists. I think that Pyhrra’s death and Jaune’s handling of it is likely (?) based off Achilles and Patroclus’ story.

the role of achilles and Patroclus ( who was achilles lover and was trained by achilles but was killed and this led to achilles going back to the fight and achilles killed the person who killed Patroclus so if the role of achilles and Patroclus is switched as they say then it would fitting for jaune to kill cinder

It makes a lot of sense for Jaune to be the one to kill Cinder, since Ruby’s Final Boss, so to speak, will probably be Salem, it’d make a lot of sense for Jaune, leader of the deuteragonist team, to kill Salem’s Dragon

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheDragon

, to use a term from TvTropes: with Cinder being the cause of Pyrrha’s death, Jaune has a reason to fight her; finally, Jeanne D'Arc started out as a simple farmgirl and ended up leading the french armies, the woman who seemed the main villain for two Volumes being killed by the guy who started the series not even knowing the most basic things of being a Hunter would parallel that”

actually  it would be even more awesome if jaune beat her without relying on dust just relying on aura and semblance and his weapons. like how pyrrha did in the fight though jaune  unlike pyrrha would win or he would beat cinder with the help of ren and nora which would fit since cinder took down amber with the help of emerald and mercury so it would fit plus it would be a contrast to how pyrrha tried to take cinder on alone and failed while jaune would take on cinder as a team and win with him laying the finishing blows 

( something  Ihad puton rwby fan theories : https://rwby-fan-theories.tumblr.com/post/150316280717/jaune-will-gain-the-fall-maiden-powers-breaking

“  Also what sounds better as a writer when facing Cinder? Ruby: “You killed the woman who I’ve had like 3 conversations with!!!!” Or Jaune: “You killed the woman who made me who I am.” (another suggestion you killed the woman I loved ) 

jaunes inspiration is joan of arc a saint saints are  who is recognized as having an exceptional degree of holiness, or likeness to God.  and there is a precedent  with Saints killing dragons especially if you count St. George and jaunes inspiration/character theme is joan of arc a saint  

and jaune may be partly inspired off of saint george though his main character theme is joan of arc 

about saint george

according to legend, was a Roman soldier of Greek origin  and jaune was trained by pyrrha whose inspiration is a achilles a greek hero so I think jaune will be partly inspired by saint george

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_George

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_George_and_the_Dragon

(its possible that jaune will take out the dragon on beacon tower after it starts moving again alive again since it was spitting out all the grimm from its body which could represent the plague bearing dragon from saint george tale  and how it poisoned the countryside or it could be a different grimm dragon

plus   With Jaune and the dragon, and his name Arc,  you could also say he represents the archangel Michael since ARChangel Michael  is often portrayed as slaying a dragon.  there is standard  iconography of Archangel Michael as a warrior saint slaying a dragon.

Statue of Archangel Michael at the University of Bonn, slaying Satan as a dragon 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_(archangel) and

in the book of revelation  described as a dragon and satan is represents  the element of fire  and cinder mainly uses  the fire element alot

http://dahniwitchoflight.tumblr.com/post/139416232117

or jaune slaying cinder could be a reference to apollo slaying the dragon python and cinder is salems dragon in tv tropes terms http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheDragon

(as in she is the right